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"worth noting you must remove the bread as soon as it's finished"

"still learning but have had some success after an initial disaster"

"it is becoming increasingly difficult to obtain a machine that has two paddles and a tin that produces bread in the shape of a conventional loaf"

"returning item"

"shame the metal feet that kneed the loaf leave holes in the bottom of the bread but hey ho still great"

"the two paddles stop the annoying feature of single paddle machines in that the dough doesn't end up in one corner and get pushed up to the top"

"i substituted the oil with butter and did not use the sugar but increased the dried yeast and it comes out perfectly every time"

"then i do the dough button first and then bake seems to work better for this loaf style"

"one small nuisance is that the paddles do tend to stay in the loaf when the bread is removed however its easy to get them back again i think this is common to all bread makers"

"i see its not on sale any longer i wonder if others have had same problem"

"the bread pan is not easy to fit into the machine poor design"

"very frustrated as this is not a cheap machine"

"we tried out the gluten free which we wanted to make for our sister in laws dietary requirement but the machine just stopped working during the process of making the bread"

"for example when you open to get the bread on mulinex all the interior side was made from plastic and because of stress from the heat and cold is starting to creak"

"one small nuisance is that the paddles do tend to stay in the loaf when the bread is removed however its easy to get them back again i think this is common to all bread makers"

"i have tried to bake 2 loaves today and both have failed miserably not even close to being edible"

"nothing wrong with the product but impossible with my arthritic hands!"

"my one problem with this machine and it is a total pain in the ass is that if you move the position of the paddles underneath breadpan when you are cleaning it it's a total pig to get back into the machine"

"however i had to have a new pan after three years and now the pan has failed again after moderate use of twice a week"

"i have never used the full bake only used the dough settings due to health reasons plus i hated those unsightly holes that the paddles left in my loaves"

"very frustrated as this is not a cheap machine"

"i had thought that this machine would be my last one i have been making my own bread for nearing 50 years and have had more than my fair share but looks as though i may have to consider buying another as i am guessing that a replacement bread bin would be almost as expensive as a new machine"

"by the way i have paid only 59£ after an year and a month is completely dead"

"that in itself is poor but i now find that andrew james are not supplying spares"

"placing the bucket in the machine is a little difficult as it is not clear what way round it should be placed"

"now that i know i make sure that i always put it back in the same way and don't move anything"

"it might be ok for normal bread and it might be ok if you use the largest loaf setting but the small loaf setting does not work at all"

"however i suspect that if i use it to make a complete loaf the varnish will burn off!"

"perfect can’t wait make more !"

"i am very impressed with the machine however i am not so impressed with the recipe book the ingredient quantities are expressed in teaspoons tablespoons or cups surely it would have been better to show all quantities by weight"

"leaving it in the oven causes it to go soggy and unusable"

"it seems they haven't googled it at panasonic adding extra water does not work"

"my previous ones pan same make model was no longer non stick and it was impossible to remove the bread"

"i have tried a different recipe as suggested initially but that did not rise at all and was a total failure"

"the bread maker has been a huge disappointment and i will never purchase another panasonic bread maker again"

"very disappointed"

"total kaput and so much hassle returning it so i decided i have to get something which will last forever but also has to be simple without these unnecessary drawers and dispensers"

"i do not recommend the nasty cheap brown and cream plastic bread cutter on sale the thin plastic of which bends out of shape while you are trying to saw the bread the wood and metal one is outrageously expensive so i am just using a breadknife"

"bread nevers fails to rise"

"i was looking for a bread maker and had lots of stores from friends and family about how bad bread makers are and there experiences"

"and importantly has 'gluten free' setting but beware if you use the 'gluten free' setting the recipe given in the handbook will not produce a good loaf and possibly damage your machine"

"i certainly won't be buying bread from a supermarket again and just wish i hadn't wasted money on the cheaper machine which was a logik l1bms11"

"product failed just as warranty expired"

"there's a lot of nonsense said about bread needing salt for it to rise"

"put the ingredients in the breadmaker in this order: a sploosh of olive oil about one tablespoon all this does is make the dough workable and easy to tip the loaf out at the end 280ml of tepid water 30 seconds in the microwave to make it tepid will do don't make it too hot or you'll kill the yeast 400g of strong bread flour with 1 teaspoon of dried bread making yeast stirred into it"

"my only gripe is that the quick program is rubbish compared to the proper way which kneads and rises twice"

"by adding 2 teaspoons of fresh lemon juice and 1 teaspoon of dough improver available from lakeland to the mix"

"produced about a dozen loaves and several dough batches all good though still learning how to tweak things a little"

"unfortunately it turned out loaves which were either brick like or didn't rise properly so that the tops were all gnarled and twisty and on slicing the bread it was just too hard"

"only minus it’s that you will need take off blade from bread after and was little messy plus was little bit of flour on it and around which needed go away"

"but the version which can do it is more expensive"

"beware buyers"

"the only tiny disappointment is no viewing window but this really isn't essential"

"i am very unhappy"

"i was buying gf loaves at £3 per loaf which were tiny dry greasy no flavour or all of the above"

"it wouldn't stop me buying the machine but it is an unnecessary niggle"

"it has got slightly more noisy after a year of use 3 times a week or more at least but we put it downstairs by the back door or in the spare room if we want it to work overnight"

"however the yeast dispenser on the sd zb2502 is unbelievably noisy and could wake the dead"

"also i must add it has a ridiculously short mains lead"

"it can't whisk the cake batter and you have to line the pan with baking parchment?"

"however the programmes for wholemeal are up to 5 hours which is very long and the shorter 3 hour version produces inferior results"

"one slight problem their site makes it extremely difficult to register this product!"

"occasionally i've had a slight issue getting the loaf out of the bread pan"

"this bread maker now is heading straight for the bin as the 30 days is up for returning same"

"i do not recommend the nasty cheap brown and cream plastic bread cutter on sale the thin plastic of which bends out of shape while you are trying to saw the bread the wood and metal one is outrageously expensive so i am just using a breadknife"

"previous breadmakers have been noisy and as we have two small nervous dogs i gave the last one away"

"only problem with that is it outs you off other bread it is a must for any house hold"

"the seller magic discounts amazon and panasonic are referring my problem to one another without accepting liability for a refund so i'm stuck with a faulty product that i can't return"

"one slight problem their site makes it extremely difficult to register this product!"

"the most expensive model i've bought but well worth the extra money for the excellent results"

"unfortunately gluten free bread is not the best but that's not the bread makers fault!"

"also a complaint i’ve read in other reviews so why doesn’t the manufacturer take notice the bleep at the end when the loaf is ready is pathetically quiet"

"so dry and at times inedible also very expensive"

"when my last panasonic breadmaker stopped working i was a bit worried by some of the negative reviews on here but still decided to purchase another panasonic model"

"he got a better loaf by making the dough cooking it in the oven so i can't really compare so you can make the cheap ones work but i'm lazy"

"so the panasonic is the option for busy people : if you decide to buy panasonic buy sd 2501 as it has seeds dispenser"

"it will also bake pre mixed dough if one wishes to mix a special cake recipe"

"changed the yeast changed the flour but still flat bread"

"almost too high"

"i am not bothered by the lack of any window in the lid but i do so wish it had a louder beeper however i simply put the on cooker timer which is nice and loud for the same amount of time"

"learned one valuable thing keep the yeast in the fridge and throw away when it reaches its best before date"

"i doubt we'd make jam or cakes in the machine but we will use the timer as the granary loaf took 5 hours and it would have been nice to have some for lunch instead of tea!"

"it has encouraged me in a new hobby for my enthusiasm for baking my own bread without a machine was waning rapidly"

"one small niggle is the end of loaf beep is quite quiet i did contact panasonic but was told that was how it is"

"you certainly don't need a seperate recipe book as the recipes in the panasonic booklet are more than ample for most people"

"the panasonic sd2500 is the 4th breadmaker we've had over a number of years and is by far the very best"

"bought after two very efficient panasonic breakmakers"

"my previous machine panasonic sd254 was brilliant purchased from amazon in september 2009 but it died on me after six years of making beautiful granary loaves on bake rapid"

"if you are having problems i would suggest trying a stronger bread flour as the difference it made was amazing and i would replace this with the same model or maybe the 2501 if it broke down"

"as with this bread maker you will get a hole in the center base where the dough paddle sits i can live with it!"

"yeast was not mixed flour not mixed properly and the bread was not baked"

"some longer programmes so delivers a better result"

"don't waste money on cheaper models this is an investment in good food for years to come"

"i put another much louder timer on to let me know"

"i bought this to replace a previous panasonic breadmaker after the drive became noisy"

"it was almost gone for dinner so i made the second one on timer was ready at 7 am both large loaves second is medium crust"

"my loaves have never been so large and after my old noisy breadmaker this one is so quiet i don't know it's on"

"so far i have made white wholemeal white fruit and fruit malt loaves exactly as described with the enclosed recipes and they have come out fantastic"

"opened the scales and not being gentle about anything i think its a bloke thing threw together the flour yeast salt butter etc into the pan without doing anything to the pan or mixing blade some find oiling the blade or rubber spatula for the pan helpful against sticking but i never had any issues whatsoever !"

"i have always found the panasonic bread machines far superior to the other machines i have had and replaced my old bread machine with yet another panasonic"

"then i bought a bag of marriages bread flour and everything seemed to click into place"

"therefore as you can clearly observe on page 10 where the list of bread types and baking options are listed there are two columns one for sd 2501 and sd 2500"

"the only weakness is the drawer that dumps in fruit known issue can do tricky home repair or spend £20+ on new one so as we almost never use the facility we've gone for the basic machine this time with no door"

"you do however need to take the loaf from the tin very soon after baking otherwise the loaf steams and spoils"

"more difficult was to choice which one to buy from panasonic choice dint bother about price just to ensure i got what i need dint bother about this model as i wanted timer automatic nuts raisin dispenser and more options spend few days on compare and ask questions plus speak with wife and almost brought the top model until i find out it’s useless for my needs wife needs "

"if you are having problems i would suggest trying a stronger bread flour as the difference it made was amazing and i would replace this with the same model or maybe the 2501 if it broke down"

"nothing is broken and it seems to me like nothing will be broken soon yes sometimes the bread maker is making a "strange noises" but it is simply at the time when the machine is mixing the dough after that is very quiet "

"it is only useful if you use the delay timer which i do not and adds to the list of things that could go wrong and the 2501 costs a lot more"

"made six loaves five of which were poorly mixed and leaden and the sixth barely risen despite following trouble shooting advice"

"if you are having problems i would suggest trying a stronger bread flour as the difference it made was amazing and i would replace this with the same model or maybe the 2501 if it broke down"

"the first loaf i made on basic rapid that is 2 hours and dark crust"

"the longer program seems unnecessary"

"i purchased this product some 16 months ago and in the last few months have started to experience the flat bread syndrome referred to by so many reviewers who have given the product 1 star as a result"

"i purchased this product some 16 months ago and in the last few months have started to experience the flat bread syndrome referred to by so many reviewers who have given the product 1 star as a result"

"bakes bread dough cakes and many more things"

"the non stick coating seems to be tough but i did notice some faint marking after using a whole grain bread mix so i'm not sure how long it would last if i did this too often"

"only reservation is that it can be tricky to line the pan when baking cakes"

"i can now eat bread that does not contain any chemicals or suspicious oils"

"i bought a cheap argos one which sufficed but a bit basic and i felt i could do better"

"there are also recipes for apple and ginger cake banana and walnut loaf boozy cake fruit tea bread gingerbread hazelnut and many more within the full manual that's included and available online at the panasonic website"

"i do this as i personally don't like the tall loaves that all bread machines produce or the paddle that is baked into the loaf leaving some weird slices which is my only criticism"

"no need for a yeast dropper as i understand it's insanely noisy in operation no night baking!"

"the old one lost anti stick on the pan was going to buy a new pan but saw this at similar price"

"my dad bought a cheap bread maker for less than half the price and he altered the recipe bit by bit until it worked perfectly and he used it for 10 years until the motor burnt out"

"dough recipe 16 on bread maker"

"i purchased another brand of bread machine a few years ago and it was complete rubbish i never made a successful loaf and subsequently gave it away"

"the non stick coating seems to be tough but i did notice some faint marking after using a whole grain bread mix so i'm not sure how long it would last if i did this too often"

"the machine loses a star for the following: end of cycle beep too quiet with no facility to adjust the volume the lcd display lens scratches easily the whole thing is solid but some of the plastic parts could fit better"

"i just get a stock reply"

"the panasonic is miles apart in terms of the quality of the bread it produces"

"opened the scales and not being gentle about anything i think its a bloke thing threw together the flour yeast salt butter etc into the pan without doing anything to the pan or mixing blade some find oiling the blade or rubber spatula for the pan helpful against sticking but i never had any issues whatsoever !"

"more difficult was to choice which one to buy from panasonic choice dint bother about price just to ensure i got what i need dint bother about this model as i wanted timer automatic nuts raisin dispenser and more options spend few days on compare and ask questions plus speak with wife and almost brought the top model until i find out it’s useless for my needs wife needs "

"put the ingredients in the breadmaker in this order: a sploosh of olive oil about one tablespoon all this does is make the dough workable and easy to tip the loaf out at the end 280ml of tepid water 30 seconds in the microwave to make it tepid will do don't make it too hot or you'll kill the yeast 400g of strong bread flour with 1 teaspoon of dried bread making yeast stirred into it"

"great bread maker only wish i had gone for the 2501 for the dispenser tray but this still works really well and makes great bread although i prefer half white half wholemeal so i had to play with the liquid amounts a bit to get them right"

"have tried different batches of flour and yeast to eliminate that as cause of problem"

"don't mess with the recipes leave them as they are panasonic have got it spot on"

"i decided to make just a basic white load for my first attempt"

"all previous machines i've had tend to get noisy over time so i'm not worried about it"

"on another occasion i had a deformed loaf but again it was my fault as i later realized i hadn't added enough water"

"made six loaves five of which were poorly mixed and leaden and the sixth barely risen despite following trouble shooting advice"

"the bread was flat as a pancake and very heavy"

"the result is a horrible dense cake like bun"

"total kaput and so much hassle returning it so i decided i have to get something which will last forever but also has to be simple without these unnecessary drawers and dispensers"

"it doesn't make too much noise thus being able to stay around while it's working without too much nuisance"

"put the ingredients in the breadmaker in this order: a sploosh of olive oil about one tablespoon all this does is make the dough workable and easy to tip the loaf out at the end 280ml of tepid water 30 seconds in the microwave to make it tepid will do don't make it too hot or you'll kill the yeast 400g of strong bread flour with 1 teaspoon of dried bread making yeast stirred into it"

"after several bad experiences with breadmakers i was persuaded to buy this one"

"no one could fail to hear that!"

"no more shop bought bread for this household"

"good unit i have made several loafs so far buying premixed from supermarket and very considtant"

"it's difficult to slice as it buckles due to lack of firmness"

"my old bead maker finally died of overwork so this one was a must and i can't say anything negative about it i have never owned any other make so i can't compare but i wouldn't contemplate any other"

"the brioche burned in the bread maker after just 1 hour and 55 minutes even though the finish time was 3 hours 30 minutes"

"i’ve only given four stars for durability simply because the lid feels a bit flimsy but handled gently it hasn’t been a problem"

"this panasonic breadmaker replaced a cheap supermarket machine which after 10 years gave up the ghost"

"the first machine i received was faulty so i returned it for another"

"waitrose refunded me the cost of the duff bag but it wasted a bit of effort"

"the only downside is that the beep that sounds when you can add extra ingredients isn't loud enough so you could miss the time slot"

"the bread comes out much easier with the non stick baking tin"

"got the hang of it after 2 tries"

"the paddle has survived countless dishwasher cycles and the pan has remained incredibly non stick despite a few over enthusiastic scrapes with a knife from little ones"

"no need for a yeast dropper as i understand it's insanely noisy in operation no night baking!"

"also whole grain breads come out heavy and undercooked"

"i have made wholemeal granary white brown fruit and various others including ready mixed where only water is added "

"i can't wait until christmas fresh bread on christmas morning fresh wholemeal for the smoked salmon starter and no panic buying of too many loaves on christmas eve"

"i purchased another brand of bread machine a few years ago and it was complete rubbish i never made a successful loaf and subsequently gave it away"

"i can't comment on the recipes because i am not that good at following them"

"we have tried all combinations of flours and yeasts and the bread refuses to rise"

"the bread is inedible uncooked heavy and damp inside"

"this happened also in a previous model but is worse in the sd 2500"

"the only very slight negative is that underneath the options panel the metal strip is a bit buckled and i wonder if this will get worse with time"

"also a complaint i’ve read in other reviews so why doesn’t the manufacturer take notice the bleep at the end when the loaf is ready is pathetically quiet"

"my only minor criticsm is the "pinger" at the end of the bread making cycle"

"bought the breadmaker to replace an old and very worn out breadmaker had a few problems in the beginning but discovered it was due to my yeast was in date but had been stored for quite a few months "

"i have made hot x buns and 2 loaves and now the machine is defunct"

"i had always wanted to make my own bread but had always been under the misconception that it was a messy and timely occupation i was wrong"

"it replaced another make which produced quite primitive shaped loaves"

"its large number of settings and instruction book which come with exact measurements for different products make it a one stop product for home baking"

"service centre which wanted £40 just to look at it so decided to go for new and bought the fairly basic sd 2500 wxc"

"very puzzled i bought this years ago and wore it out!"

"the only shortage is missing rye bread production"

"having spent years making half decent loaves in a morphy richards i purchaced the panasonic sd 2500 after reading the reviews"

"it didn't make the chocolate chip brioche as the chips melted and the loaf was heavy and not really edible but this has been the only disaster"

"yeast was not mixed flour not mixed properly and the bread was not baked"

"when my last panasonic breadmaker stopped working i was a bit worried by some of the negative reviews on here but still decided to purchase another panasonic model"

"nothing is broken and it seems to me like nothing will be broken soon yes sometimes the bread maker is making a "strange noises" but it is simply at the time when the machine is mixing the dough after that is very quiet "

"some never made good bread and some did if you got the recipe just right but after a year or two the stirrer seised up or the bread pan began to leak around the stirrer"

"the problem with all bread makers is the paddle sometimes coming out with the bread but not all the time"

"we expected to 'hear' machine start and when it didn't it was a rest cycle thought the timer had not functioned"

"the seller magic discounts amazon and panasonic are referring my problem to one another without accepting liability for a refund so i'm stuck with a faulty product that i can't return"

"the panasonic entails mixing the ingredients then removing them then lining the tin then putting the mixed ingredients back in to the tin"

"it is worth reading the recipe book carefully as it has good tips on what to do if the bread is heavy has air holes in etc etc"

"having had a previous machine by this company which suddenly packed up i am so glad i heeded which report and replaced with same make updated version of course"

"this one has never put a foot wrong"

"it is only useful if you use the delay timer which i do not and adds to the list of things that could go wrong and the 2501 costs a lot more"

"i just regret i didn't bought it earlier"

"i would highly recommend this machine but i wouldn't pay the extra for the sd 2501 which has the dispenser it only means putting the extra ingredients in manually after about an hour which is no hardship unless you are baking overnight"

"i tried several different brands of flour morrisons asda tesco lidl etc and they all gave me similar results"

"i think i made the wrong one"

"in communication with panasonic re my complaint"

"previous breadmaker gave very moderate results with heavy stodgy bread"

"there are also recipes for apple and ginger cake banana and walnut loaf boozy cake fruit tea bread gingerbread hazelnut and many more within the full manual that's included and available online at the panasonic website"

"all previous machines i've had tend to get noisy over time so i'm not worried about it"

"to put it in a nutshell the bread isn't as nice nice than the cheapie but not as nice as the fastbake which although didn't have a special gluten free program made a very nice gluten free loaf"

"used it twice and sent it back as it didn't mix properly and the bread was flat and pale on top"

"the machine loses a star for the following: end of cycle beep too quiet with no facility to adjust the volume the lcd display lens scratches easily the whole thing is solid but some of the plastic parts could fit better"

"according to their model drop down menu this model doesn’t exist!"

"i primarily use the machine for the dough feature to make rolls and putting the dough into a normal 800g 2lb loaf tin and baking it in the conventional oven"

"the new one is slimmer and has a non stick surface on the bread pan and kneading blade which are coated with diamond particles that are apparently twice as tough and scratch proof as the old one"

"the raisin dispenser broke and stayed open even though we never even used it"

"however the yeast dispenser on the sd zb2502 is unbelievably noisy and could wake the dead"

"the reason i didn't get the 2501 was because of the seed dispenser which to me isn't a big thing because i can add the seeds manually"

"even if you don't fancy square shaped loaves i think these are great machines just to knead the dough then bake in your normal oven"

"two niggles the graduations on the measuring tumbler are difficult to read when filled with liquid and the volume of the bleeper to tell you when the bread is ready is not loud enough panasonic really ought to fix that"

"i have tried various recipes for both bread and dough settings and the results are always excellent delivering perfect loaves every time"

"use a lot for making dough esp pizza and wouldn't be without it now"

"the only tiny disappointment is no viewing window but this really isn't essential"

"to make matters worse i made several attempts and in doing so i went beyond the 28 day return period"

"i purchased this product some 16 months ago and in the last few months have started to experience the flat bread syndrome referred to by so many reviewers who have given the product 1 star as a result"

"i purchased this one as i never ever did use the fruit and nut dispenser on the other so this does the job at almost 1 2 the price!"

"my old bead maker finally died of overwork so this one was a must and i can't say anything negative about it i have never owned any other make so i can't compare but i wouldn't contemplate any other"

"i make a loaf almost every day and in 3 months of use have not had a bad one that wasn't my fault "

"note that this model does not have the automatic dispenser for seeds etc so you can't make some loaves on the timer as you need to add the extra ingredients when prompted"

"idiot proof hey if i can make great bread with this anyone can!"

"the non stick coating seems to be tough but i did notice some faint marking after using a whole grain bread mix so i'm not sure how long it would last if i did this too often"

"i can't wait until christmas fresh bread on christmas morning fresh wholemeal for the smoked salmon starter and no panic buying of too many loaves on christmas eve"

"3 hour function for granary bread was somewhat disappointing with the bread not fully raised"

"amazon far from clear on how to contact them over this kind of problem"

"do not buy this model!"

"struggled a bit with the instructions and they don't mention that the 'rest period' is at the beginning of the cycle and the machine does nothing for an hour"

"the beeper is just not loud enough"

"whatever i do the bread is doughy soft and not fully cooked"

"immediately set to trying it out but the plastic measuring cup supplied for the water was found to be cracked"

"two things which could i feel be improved on a warning that the breadmaker begins with a rest period which made me at least think it wasn’t working at first"

"it doesn't make too much noise thus being able to stay around while it's working without too much nuisance"

"one has only to google the "panasonic breadmaker paddle problem" to see how many people have experienced it"

"i was buying gf loaves at £3 per loaf which were tiny dry greasy no flavour or all of the above"

"i have wasted 2 lots of flour etc and the loaves have not processed at all"

"whatever i do the bread is doughy soft and not fully cooked"

"as for the dough paddle it does not stick at all and never has you have to let the machine cool completely before cleaning or putting any water on the metal bread making container the loafs we have are lovely and crusty with a fabulous taste so far to go as the best bread i have tasted in 50yrs"

"won’t buy another loaf!"

"no detergent is needed the dough will brush off easily"

"a buttered cake tin in an oven is far less aggro and the result will look like a cake rather than a loaf shaped cake"

"the only weakness is the drawer that dumps in fruit known issue can do tricky home repair or spend £20+ on new one so as we almost never use the facility we've gone for the basic machine this time with no door"

"to make matters worse i made several attempts and in doing so i went beyond the 28 day return period"

"nothing should break it would just look classier"

"few drops of water too much or too little and the result is changed radically"

"if it doesn't pop out rotate the blade a little back and forth by moving the fitting under the pan on top now of course and shake the pan again"

"i am not bothered by the lack of any window in the lid but i do so wish it had a louder beeper however i simply put the on cooker timer which is nice and loud for the same amount of time"

"the only tiny disappointment is no viewing window but this really isn't essential"

"we sent it over to panasonic customer service and they replaced the lid"

"would be much better if the recipes gave weights as well as volumes for yeast sugar and salt much more accurate to measure and scale up or down if you have small digital scales"

"the loaf was easy to remove from the non stick pan and there was minimal cleaning up to do afterwards"

"we have purchased many and varied makes of breadmaker some expensive some cheap this is by far the best one we have ever had we use this at least 3 times a week so we will have to see how long it will last but up to yet the best"

"we previously had one which worked perfectly but decided to upgrade a big mistake"

"there is higher model that has a nuts dispenser but i decided not to pay for that feature as i didn't think i would use it all that often"

"only quibble is crust could be crustier but it is my first machine so some fine tuning may be required!"

"last one died recently so i had no hesitation in getting another"

"one thing i found was that the bread recipes are only approximate because the result depends on the batch of flour and where it is sourced from and that will affect how much water you need"

"my previous ones pan same make model was no longer non stick and it was impossible to remove the bread"

"for menus 7 and 20 meaning bake rye and dough rye there is a line explaining that this option is not available for your breadmaker as it was not designed for this purpose"

"try it for yourself i doubt you will be disappointed"

"can't argue with that"

"5kg' avoid this flour!"

"secret is measure the ingrediants 100% do not just guesstimate"

"my old bread maker morphy richards was good but wearing out"

"i bought this on the strength of other reviews to replace an old morphy richards that we had been using daily"

"delighted with the panasonic its far better"

"our last panasonic breadmaker lasted eleven years and is still going strong as it turned out we were using old yeast rather than there being a problem with the breadmaker"

"obviously washing all user parts with a soft sponge and soapy water is the only prep i had done and my first loaf is a corker i went straight for the 1kg loaf not to do by half measures lol and the only thing i have to say anything about is that even on dark crust setting the loaf has a light to medium colouring and not as dark as i would like it but im sure i will find a way to get it a little darker still but this was done on prog 2 rapid loaf so it mat be darker if i used the full baking prog 1 ?"

"first week was difficult as stop eating gluten it’s not easy as to find replacement for diet and keep eating enough calories min 1000 per day"

"i bought the model with the raisin and nut dispenser for my daughter"

"did not bother with all the automatic gizzmos that come with some makes this one is plain and simple and works every time and the bread is delicious"

"the only downside is that the beep that sounds when you can add extra ingredients isn't loud enough so you could miss the time slot"

"it was not a good move although the breadmaker was smaller than the panasonic models there was no consistently about the quality of the bread"

"it didn't make the chocolate chip brioche as the chips melted and the loaf was heavy and not really edible but this has been the only disaster"

"makes great bread but it's a very big machine so finding storage space is not easy but would not be without it "

"just started a white loaf on program 7 and the dough is being mixed properly you can hear the difference in the force of the mixing between the old machine & the new one so problem solved!"

"the only very slight negative is that underneath the options panel the metal strip is a bit buckled and i wonder if this will get worse with time"

"more often than not the paddle stays in the bread but it’s easy to remove once the bread has cooled down"

"i have to say the wholemeal turned out to be very stodgy and not nice to eat at all"

"i’ve only given four stars for durability simply because the lid feels a bit flimsy but handled gently it hasn’t been a problem"

"breadmaker is as described perfect to replace an older panasonic one which broke down"

"the new panasonic has cured the problem"

"so easy to use you just can't go wrong"

"i cannot find any think bad about this product"

"some never made good bread and some did if you got the recipe just right but after a year or two the stirrer seised up or the bread pan began to leak around the stirrer"

"incidentally i didn't by the 2501 because it has the rasin nut distributor"

"it says it is suitable for breadmakers but it turned out 2 half cooked unrisen bricks"

"i found it very late"

"i bought this machine about a week ago having previously wasted money on a much cheaper bread maker which regularly produced loaves that were only fit for the bin and i don't mean the bread bin!"

"there's nothing like it"

"sth in the shop bread against mould and it unlocks diabetes and gaining weight"

"i have been using a panasonic bread maker for some years now with a good success rate but found after a period of time the non stick properties of the pan were not as good as they should be"

"i have made a fruit loaf in it and put the fruit and nuts in at the appropriate time without any problems and the timer i can hear from upstairs sometimes even though it's not that loud"

"returned without difficulty and i won’t bother again!"

"if the paddle remains in the machine the bread has only got a very small cut where the paddle was situated"

"i didn't seem to have a problem"

"it appears that the different brands blends etc affect the result far more with gf flour compared to normal flour"